British Muslim girls being forced into marriage via internet

531595_thumpLondon (PTI): Minor Muslim girls in the UK as young as 11 are being forced to marry men living abroad via the internet notwithstanding a ban on forced marriage in the country.

Imams in the UK and abroad have been conducting ceremonies using Skype — so girls can be married remotely before “being put on a plane and consummating the marriage at the earliest opportunity”, according to Freedom, a charity.

The marriage is often conducted with the promise of a visa to the UK for their new husband, it said.

“The reason is to curb the behaviour of their children when they become ‘too western’,” charity founder Aneeta Prem was quoted as saying by ‘The Sunday Times’.

“Once married, there is enormous pressure to get a spouse visa. The hope is the girl will visit (country of husband’s origin) and fall pregnant to make the union seem more legitimate before bringing the partner back,” she said.

In one case, an 11-year-old home-educated girl from London was married on Skype to a 25-year-old man in Bangladesh.

She contacted Freedom in November after reading a book about forced marriage that her older brother was given at school.

“She hadn’t understood at the time but later realised the Skype call was a marriage ceremony. The plan was for her to meet her ‘husband’ at a later date and hopefully fall pregnant.

In the meantime, she was at home learning to cook and clean,” said Prem, the author of ‘But It’s Not Fair’ – an account of forced marriage.

“We see cases from many communities including those from Hindu, Sikh, Jewish, and Mormon backgrounds. No religion accepts forced marriage but some parents are using it as a method of control,” she added.

Forced marriage was made illegal in England, Wales and Scotland in 2014 but there has been only one conviction and it did not involve a child.

Karma Nirvana, a charity that runs free workshops to raise awareness of forced marriage, said in a two-month period at the end of last year it had received 38 referrals from 14 schools, including 11 from one school in Birmingham made the day after it gave a presentation.

The UK Department of Education said: “We trust teachers to know what their pupils will benefit from most, rather than prescribing a one-size-fits-all approach”.


  1. “British Muslim girls ….” – Report.

    Kudos to media for reporting on this. Girls as young as 11 yrs old ? This is why London is known as Londonistaan these days!! Any comments from Sharia pandita?

  2. Dear readers,

    It has been a custom in the media frenzy to link forced marriages that are committed in some Asian-Muslim communities, to link it to Islam. This prompted me to write this article and show that Islam forbids forced marriages. In Islam for a marriage to be valid there has to be mutual consent from both parties.

    When a suitable partner is chosen then four things are considered, out of which one should take importance and this is the religious practice of their prospective partners. Whilst the following Hadith is in relation to choosing a woman, it refers to both sexes: the Messenger of Allah (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) said

    “A woman (or man) may be married for four things: for her wealth, for her noble descent, for her beauty or for her religion. Choose the one who is religious, lest your hands be rubbed with dust!” (Bukhari and Muslim)
    Islam regards marriage as a right of the individual and therefore others cannot make the decision for them. If a woman/man is forced in marriage then the marriage would not be valid and would therefore need to be cancelled. However, daughters and sons should also recognize the rights of their parents and come to an agreed solution before the marriage takes place.

    Marriage is considered to be of the utmost importance in Islam and there is extensive material in both the Quran and the hadith on the vital role it plays in the life of faith. It is often described as having both a vertical and a horizontal dimension. On the vertical plane, marriage is understood as an act of worship in that it is pleasing to Allah and fulfills the divine plan. According to tradition, Muhammad declared that no institution is more loved by Allah. Moreover, when a person marries he has completed ‘half of his religious obligations.’ On the horizontal plane, marriage is a legal contract between two individuals. In this sense, it requires the usual elements of any contract: mutual consent between the parties, specified conditions, and public witness. As in many cultures, Islamic marriages have been arranged for much of history and this is still common practice today. The involvement of parents and family in the selection of a suitable partner is based on the principle that marital success cannot be founded on romantic love alone. Long-term compatibility is an essential factor that includes considerations such as moral character and religious faith. Marriage is seen as not only the union of two individuals but also the joining of two families, and thus broader interests must be taken into account. However, an arranged marriage is not a forced marriage and Islamic law stipulates that the free consent of both parties is necessary for its validity, even if the bride acts through her official guardian, or wali.”

    Marriage is one of the most important institutions of Islam. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) declared that when a person marries he has completed “half of his religious obligations.” Marriage is a legal contract between two individuals. It requires the usual mutual consent between the parties, specified conditions, and a public witness. The involvement of parents and family extends only to help in finding the right partner. For a successful, long lasting marriage, it is essential to consider long-term compatibility, moral character and religious beliefs. However, an arranged marriage may not be a forced marriage and Islamic law stipulates that the free consent of both parties is necessary for its validity.

    There are ample of evidences shown in the Quran and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (p) that forced marriages are not part of Islam. It is evident from everything shown that forcing to marry someone against their will in Islam is forbidden.

    One may be the reason for this is teen pregnancy in UK.Britain, nevertheless, has a sky-high level of teenage pregnancies, with 2.9 out of every 100 girls aged between 15 and 19 giving birth every year.

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    The findings suggest the huge growth in single parenthood in the UK in recent years – much of it a result of teenage pregnancy – has little to do with a lack of knowledge of sex and contraception among young people.

    According to WHO Half of all adolescent births occur in just seven countries: Bangladesh, Brazil, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, India, Nigeria and the United States.The last decade has witnessed a constant rise in teen pregnancies in India. The main reason is child marriage and also the lack of proper sex education in schools which leads teenagers to have unprotected sex. In fact teen pregnancies in India are deemed to be even higher than those in UK and US. Plagues like early marriage, illiteracy and high infant mortality rates are basically the reasons that cause pregnancies in young girls between 14 to 19 years.

    Childbearing is not an easy thing. It takes a toll both mentally as well as physically. There is a reason people decide a certain age for pregnancy. It is because at this stage the body is fully grown as well as the lady knows how to condition her body and also how to take care of the baby. Teen mothers lack all of this knowledge.

    There are more social evil in the Indian society.Female foeticide in India is became rampant.Dowry death and violence against women is became social menace.

    I wonder why mass media give selective coverage which linked to religion rather than addressing the issues concerning to the mankind.

    Jai Hind

  3. “In Islam for a marriage to be valid there has to be mutual consent from both parties”

    SMR. The job of the press is to report fairly and squarely on what is happening in the world today. So first blame those Imams who have been getting 11 year old girls married over skype and here is what she had to say “She hadn’t understood at the time but later realised the Skype call was a marriage ceremony. The plan was for her to meet her ‘husband’ at a later date and hopefully fall pregnant”

    I was researching marriages in Islam and I realised there are all kinds of marriages. The author also gives chapter, verse and reference of leading Islamic scholars and writers of the Hadiths like Ibn Kathir and so these are not my opinions, these are their opinions.

    The following short article was written by Dr. A. A. Ahmed and appears here with permission. Dr. Ahmed, a convert from Islam to Christianity, is originally from the Sudan, earned a Ph.D in philosophy from the University of Bombay, India and has written twelve books to date on Islam and Women.


    There are five types of marriages in Islam:

    1-Monogamous Marriage: A lawful relationship between one man and one woman.

    2-Polygamous Marriage: A lawful relationship between one man and more than one woman, not to exceed four wives at a time.

    3-Muta’a or Enjoyment Marriage: A temporary lawful relationship between a man and a woman. The relationship could be one hour, two hours, three days, a month, etc. The enjoyment marriage doesn’t require a judge or witnesses. The man has to say to the woman ‘I marry you myself’ and she has to say to him ‘I marry you myself.’ This kind of marriage differs from the ordinary marriage because it does not aim at a continuous married life, but the enjoyment in a lawful way. It has been permitted by the prophet, but abolished by the second caliph, Omar Ibn al-Khattab. The Shi’te sect argues that because this kind of marriage is permitted by the Qur’an (Q Surah al-Nisa 4: 24), the caliph Omar has no legal right to abolish it. According to the Shari’a law, no one has the right to abrogate any verse from the Qur’an after the death of the prophet. However, Muta’a marriage is unlawful in Sunni Islam, but practiced until today by the Shi’te Muslims. In Iran, it is estimated that over 70% of temporary wives become prostitutes (Woodsmall 1983: 119).

    4-Al-Misyar Marriage: Al-Misyar marriage institution in Islam, allows for a lesser form of relationship between man and woman than normal marriage. Al-Misyar is an official relationship between man and woman, but does neither require that the two live together, nor that the man is economically responsible for his wife. Al-Misyar allows the man to have a normal wife in an addition to his wives. The misyar wife is expected to live with her parents, and her husband can visit her according to a predetermined schedule. Al-Misyar marriage has been practiced in Saudi Arabia and Egypt for years. The Egyptian Sunni Imam Shaykh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi and the Mufti of Egypt officially legalized it in February 1999, and has also been defending the arrangement of misyar. Marriage is defined as ‘a permanent, immediate, and unconditional civil contract (which is not contingent) between two persons of opposite sex for mutual enjoyment and procreation of children’ (Verma 1988: 56). As we shall see soon this definition doesn’t apply to the concept of marriage in Islam. The two concerned persons who sign the marriage contract in Muslim countries are not the husband and wife. According to Shafi’ and Maliki Shari’a schools, ‘a woman is utterly incompetent to enter into a marriage contract either herself or for another even though her guardian should authorize her to do so. A father can contract the marriage of his virgin daughter without asking her consent whatever her age’ (Verma 1988: 24). There are no specific minimum age limitations in marriage in Islam. This is because the prophet Muhammad had married A’isha at the age of six and slept with her when she was nine years old. The Qur’an allows the girl to get married before she reaches the age of having her menstruation. Qur’an states, “Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy (Qur’an Surah Al-Talaq 65: 4). The commentator Ibn Kathir explains this verse as follows; there are three kinds of women, those who are grown old and their periods ceased and those small girls who do not yet have their periods. The old women and the underage girls who have not yet menstruated if they get married and divorced they have to stay three months before they are allowed to get married again. The third type of women is those who still have their periods or are pregnant. Those women have to stay three months and ten days before they remarry.

    5-The fifth Marriage in Islam is to 72 VIRGINS IN PARADISE.

    “We shall wed them unto [huris] fair ones with wide, lovely eyes” (Qur’an al-Dukhan 44: 51-54).

    “Therein maidens resting their glances, untouched before them by any man or jinn…Lovely as rubies, beautiful as coral” (Qur’an al-Rahman 55: 56-58).

    “The fair, the beautiful ones [huris]. With large eyeballs, kept close in their pavilions” (Qur’an al-Rahaman 55: 72).

    “… and maidens of swelling breasts (kawa’eb) like of age, and a cup overflowing” (Qur’an al-Muzzamil 73: 33). Kawa’eb means the woman who has breasts that are swelling and firm, not sagging (Haqq & Newton 1996: 16).

    “A woman does not give trouble to her husband in this world, but his wife of the pure-eyed ones [huris] does say to her: ‘Do not give him trouble. May Allah destroy you. He is only a passing guest with you and it is very near that he will soon leave you to come to us” (Mishakat al-Masabih, book, 1, hadith no. 62).

    “The prophet was asked: ‘Do we have sex in paradise? He answered: ‘Yes, by him who holds my soul in his hand and it will be done dahman, dahman (that is the intercourse done with such shove and disturbance). And when it is finished she will return pure and virgin again” (Haqq & Newton 1996: 17).

  4. I have been witnessing the regular arguments between Pai and Shaikh for some time now and with my centrist views felt that Pai was pushing Sheikh to comment on things he has no control over. However, the question he has raised is simple. Is it wrong to marry off children and if so should it be condemned?
    The fact that religious leaders are perpetuating such evil is unpardonable and should be dealt with the full force of the law as it is morally and legally wrong. Sheikh’s ramble is meaningless and should have been responded with an unequivocal stand condemning it. If secularism is to succeed then we have to root out the evils that plague our cultures first. There is no place in civil society for medieval barbaric traditions.

  5. Sharia Pandita,
    Did you even read this report? It clearly says how Imams in UK approve and conduct these ceremonies. Are you saying that they are not muslims? Let me ask you another question – What is the acceptable age limit for a girl to get married as per your sharia law? Let us know.

    • Did you even read this report? – Rampa to Mr. Shaikh

      Hey Rampa, did you read this article?

      Rahul Da Cunha: Jesus was a Tam-Brahm
      So, the other evening, Jesus Christ, our Lord, called me.

      “Hey, my son, I was browsing the Net, and I read that there is a newly released book claiming that Christianity was a Hindu cult”

      “Yes, my Lord.”

      “Also, it says that I was actually a Tamil Hindu? Isn’t there a hue and cry in your land?”

      “Oh God, sorry… my Lord, no no…it’s a non-issue, no one in India has taken it seriously. The RSS has distanced itself from it. The Church has just laughed it off.”

      “But, this author is calling me a ‘Tam- Bram’! ‘Tam’, I assume is short for ‘Tamil’. But what is ‘Brahm’?

      “Uh…sir…my Lord…Brahm is short for Brahmin, much like your high priests”

      “And, it also claims my real name is Keshao Krishna… I mean you live your whole life thinking you are the Father of one religion, and one morning, boom, there’s a theory you’re something else.”

      “Yes and, imagine, it also claims your complexion is dark. What is that about?”

      “Look, I’ll be honest, my skin is a touch dark at the moment. The truth is I did go to Goa during Lent. Okay, I did hang out a bit at Palolem Beach. I went surf boarding, obviously without a board. I wanted to check if I could still walk on water — so, I will confess with all that summer sun, without applying sun block, I’m kind of dark, well swarthy for sure.”

      “So, is it also true that you practice yoga?”

      “No way, yoga isn’t my thing — sitting in that lotus position, it’s sheer murder on the knees and quadriceps. My dad was a carpenter, so wood cutting, great for cardio and biceps.”

      “Father, with due respect, I mean you could have called anyone — The Archdiocese, the Cardinal, anyone… why me?”

      “My son, I wish to visit Chennai. Take me there. To my alternative Promised Land.”

      “Uh, why?”

      “To see if indeed there is any truth in me being a Tamilian. Plus, is it was Amma’s birthday a couple of days ago.”

      “Yes, we could pop in and say halo, sorry, hello.”

      “Also, there is some clothing called a ‘lungi’, that I am supposed to have worn — that’s the same garb that Shah Rukh Khan danced in, right?”

      “I need to warn you, there is a large Kollywood extravaganza being planned on your life — its called ‘Jesus Christ & Superstar.”

      “I know, it’s an old musical written by Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber, but there’s no ‘&’ in Jesus Christ Superstar.”

      “My Lord, no offence, but there is in this one — it’s in another league — it has songs, SFX, super sonic sound. ‘Jesus Christ’ is you…and Superstar is none other than the South Indian Mega Superstar — his name is Rajnikanth!”

      “I’m so excited. To visit the land of Amma and appams,” the Holy Man exclaimed.

      “My Lord…so I’ll meet you at the airport along with your new disciples?”

      “Excuse me, but I have my 12 chosen. I’ve had them for thousands of years.”

      “Uh sir, these are your Tamil disciples — Siva, Swamy, Subramaniam, Swaminathan, Srikkath, Subbarao, Narayanan, Natarajan, Raghavan, Venkatachalam, Murali and Chandrasekharan.”

  6. I have been witnessing the regular arguments between Pai and Shaikh for some time now and with my centrist views felt that Pai was pushing Sheikh to comment on things he has no control over. -Mr.Girish

    Sir,You are the one among the forum member clearly understood Mr.Original motive behind daily trolling. The ‘Digital India’ in the name of social media is taking to the new level of haterate with no intentions of getting healing.No one knew how to correct the course of action to unite the nation and maintain secular credentials of this country.

    1. A section of people on internet, have a ‘belief’, that if you are a Muslim, you should be asked and made to explain ‘things that are wrong in Muslim countries’.

    One is expected to criticise them. Yes I’ve no problem in doing that. Anyone would condemn flogging or execution though those who expect it form us, may support death penalty for certain people in India.

    Anyway, the issue begins when these tweeple show that their mental horizon is limited to a Muslim world’ which begins from Pakistan and Afghanistan, goes past all Arab countries in a sweeping statement, and then end up buttressing that ‘everywhere there is something wrong in Muslim world’.

    Over the years, I have seen this typical troll strategy:

    2. It begins with a normal and gentle conversation. Then, you are asked about a particular practice in a Muslim country, if you counter it and give a proper argument, then comes a second question–may be about faraway Iraq or Iran–countries alien to me and with whom I have no relation.

    What’s the objective? They keep throwing selected charges [repeated by most of them, copy-pasted from certain sites], to keep you on defensive? Or it gives them a high? Do they really enjoy, because the conversation leads to no where.

    An intelligent person with patience would give examples to explain something. He will talk about different factors–local issues, involvement of America in Middle East over the Great Game, sincerely accept problems that exist in Muslim countries, even if he is not responsible.

    3. But the troll steadily keeps moving towards an objective–that ‘it happened at place X, person Y does this, and see Z’, now this is enough for him to ‘conclusively’ say that ‘ your religion has a certain problem’ or ‘you guys are mostly bad, with a few exceptions’.

    So there is no scope for RATIONALISM. No point is any argument or debate, which gets clearer over the course of minutes or hours. Either side may get abusive and their friends too jump in the conversation.

    4. If the person had tried to be patient till now and didn’t resort to abuse, he still gets bitter by the experience. Feels that there is tremendous hate and communalism in this world. What the ‘Troll ji’ gets out of it? Is he paid by someone or he sincerely believes it. No easy answers.

    Does he enjoys spreading such message and feels he is doing something good to society by creating awareness regarding the truth of a particular religion and its believers, as per his {troll ji’s} interpretation and views? Whatever.

    The classic troll strategy: Online and Offline

    5. Hundreds or thousands or may be even more people are having this experience on internet on a daily basis. This ‘strategy’ or it comes out of them naturally, is not limited to internet. I have some off-line experience too.

    “Why X killed Hindus?”, you answer and counter. “Ok, why then you guys do this in country Y”. “I have no great interest in Y. Bad practices should be condemned, no justification. Doesn’t untouchability, khap killings, dowry, rapes, so many things exist here too”.

    “That’s different, why there is always trouble in these countries?”. “Is it? How many Muslim countries you know? Let’s talk about Indonesia–the most populated Muslim country, to small neighbours like Maldives or Brunei also…

    6. Many of these trolls have an obsession for Pakistan or Afghanistan. But why not talk about Albania, Sierra Leone, Mauritania, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Tajikistan…and so many nations across the world?

    Tell him and Troll ji gets angry, says, “These are countries with European influence, commie culture or monarchies”. You may tell a troll that there is no need for you to justify anything or else he should also see civil wars, issues in African, South American, Southeast Asian countries, many of which are Christian or Buddhist majority.

    7. But then, from everything that happened in last millennium, from Ghaznavi to Babar, the troll wants you to be held responsible. The ‘Muslim obsession’ and sweeping generalization that an entire sea of humanity is bad, comes from him. And it keeps going on.

    8. Troll ji, is not listening to you. He thought Rwanda, Ethiopia, Uganda or Zambia were all Muslim countries. He then goes to a ‘percentage theory’ that if minorities [Muslims] go past this number, they create trouble, but even if they are 7%, they can create trouble (he has checked wikipedia by then).

    9. Our troll ji, wants that the person would change his mind and accept what he (troll) believes in. But a normal person falls in the trap. Because he wants a civilised debate, he keeps on ‘answering’ (to) the same set of questions, without realising that the ‘troll ji’ wants him to land in this situation.

    Frustrated in real life! Net, perhaps only place where Troll gets attention
    The troll wants you to be replying, replying and replying–a grilling session, it becomes. You aren’t allowed to question him.

    10. The moment he has no answer left, he will get abusive–giving you a jolt as you were probably hoping to calm down a person and had tried your best to make him see reason, so that he could stop being irrational and hateful. Alas…

    Nothing, just nothing can make the ‘troll’ understand

    11. My friend was dealing with a similar situation. So it was back to ‘problems with Muslim countries’ argument by the other person. Once again, he had his views based on just a few countries, especially, Pakistan.

    Patiently, my friend kept answering and informing:

    *Yes, so many countries have secular constitutions– Indonesia, Turkmenistan, Jordan, Gambia, Djbouti, Comoros, Niger, Tajikistan, Burkina Faso, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan…Albania (even has nudist beaches), Tunisia has secular constitution.

    *Kosovo, Uzbekistan, Kazakhistan had even had atheist Presidents. Morocco recently had a Gay pride march

    *Lebanon–only country in the world where constitution mandates that only a minority should be president.

    12. But nothing worked. A proper debate is where the other person is ready to appreciate if he is told a valid point. He or she should be ready to accept if he didn’t know something, and has just been informed about it.

    This huge cyber army is now capable of making any non-issue into an issue. Not just the ‘paid cyber army’ but also the right-wing supporters, who number in thousands (may be even more), are suddenly in action, when there is any such incident.

    Mr.Original is using the same strategy with typical argument point like ‘Rama,Krishna true Hindu God’,’Do you support Pakistan’,’Do you respect Indian flag’,’Sharia’,’Tahqia’,Saudi Arabia and so on…

    As per the circular from RSS there are dedicated ‘Cyber soldier’ in each website to counter argument in dubious names.So it is evident in this site well with Original,Mango,Angola etc. As 99.9% of US media is Jewish controlled in USA,RSS wants the same in India.

    So it is obvious whoever counter the argument by default as linked to ‘anti national’ whether it Bollywood or JNU campus.Mr.Original is one among who scribbles graffiti in the toilet or obscene writings in train lavatories and patiently wait for his reply.

    Coming to the article my argument is clearly present with evidence what Islam and quran upholds the right of adolescent.To make long story short Islam does not permit forced marriages regardless of age bar.

    Jai Hind

    • Fair enough. This propaganda warfare is nothing new and the Germans used it extensively during WWII with disastrous consequences. Trolls are paid or unpaid volunteers and used extensively in this generation. It is quite easy to recruit one – look for a frustrated loser who wants someone to blame for his problems. The way to counter trolling is to ignore their existence not engage with them.

      Indian Muslims do not need to justify their patriotism or their relevance to social issues. They are Indian first and Muslim second and made that choice in 1947. End of argument.

      However, their has to be a concerted effort to rid social evils irrespective of tradition or religious bias. It also has to be visible and stories of change need to be actively promoted.

  7. “Indian Muslims do not need to justify their patriotism or their relevance to social issues. They are Indian first and Muslim second …” – Gireesha.

    Dear Taquiyya Artist Shaikh,
    Could you please confirm what Gireesha wrote? He says you are an Indian first and Muslim second. Is it true? When the same question was put to Zakir Naayak, he did a very long ‘bharatha naatyam’ around the question and never really answered it. May be, you can answer this once for all.

  8. However, their has to be a concerted effort to rid social evils irrespective of tradition or religious bias. It also has to be visible and stories of change need to be actively promoted.-Mr.Girish

    Sir,I appreciate your valid suggestions. I would like to ensure you that it will be forwarded to the concern sections and make the impact visible.

    Jai Hind

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