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B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India: [ RE: B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India ] Reply to B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India Mar 30, 2015
Original R. Pai, USA: [RE: B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India] Mar 30, 2015.

Dear Original R. Paimaam of USA,

In your post dated Mar 29, 2015, you invoked some imaginary and illogical "modern sensibilities" to counter my facts.

So, in my reply to you, I revealed how naive, insensible and insensitive you are to the feelings, concerns and the very means of living of 90% of Indians!

Therefore, my post was the appropriate answer to your objections.

However, you said, "How does it matter to my argument to minimize the suffering of animals?"

Eating food, either by killing animals or by killing vegetation, is the natural law made by GOD. Who are you to tamper with it? Who are you to permit killing of vegetation and prohibiting killing of animals, while choosing the food?

What is the rationale to justify your discrimination killing animals and killing vegetation?

Please do not play God!
Prakash Naik, Kundapur, Muscat, Oman: [ RE: Mangaluru: Dayakar Bangera Needs a New Roof over His Walls - Your Help Wanted ] Reply to Prakash Naik, Kundapur, Muscat, Oman Mar 30, 2015
Really heart rending. I only hope some social organizations or politicians extend a helping hand to Mr. Bangera and his family as soon as possible.

Arranging to transfer Rs.10,000/- to his account from Spandana Group Muscat this afternoon.

Come on guys....lets all share our social responsibility.
vincy/Mangalore, India: [ RE: 'I and my Pregnant Wife were Attacked by Rogues on Motorbike'-Sushant Shetty ] Reply to vincy/Mangalore, India Mar 30, 2015
I support Mr. Shetty. This type of people are hooligans and should be punished. As my opinion u should not stop the car. They can not have grip. Why u are allowed to them to beat. Drive car direct to police station or crowded area...
panduranga, India: [ RE: Udupi: Members of Karnataka Rakshana Vedike Join JD(S) ] Reply to panduranga, India Mar 30, 2015
Sir sangagalu yaavude party serodu astondu olledu ansalla. Abipraaya aste.
aalva, India: [ RE: 'I and my Pregnant Wife were Attacked by Rogues on Motorbike'-Sushant Shetty ] Reply to aalva, India Mar 30, 2015
Do post this in Facebook so that it reaches everyone.
Original R.Pai, USA: [ RE: Will try to bring nationwide ban on cow slaughter: Rajnath ] Reply to Original R.Pai, USA Mar 30, 2015
Rajanath Singh is right on Jainism. It truly promotes non-violence as compared to some religions who preach 'true god-false god' resulting in generations of bloodshed and destruction.

However, the ban on cow slaughter can succeed only if there is a careful plan to tackle the current population of cows. In the name of 'ksheera kranti' (architect - a malayaalee by the name Kurien), we have increased our dairy consumption by many folds. This resulted in an explosion of cattle population in our country. Most of our farmers (yes - mainly Hindus) do sell their cows as soon as they are not economically viable. These cows end up in slaughter houses within days!! Hindu organizations need to look into this and come up with realistic plans. The explosion in dairy products and consumption in our society are the main reasons behind such a large supply of cows to beef industry. We need to think of reducing our dairy consumption to more reasonable level.
B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India: [ RE: Nelson Lewis, India ] Reply to B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India Mar 30, 2015
Nelson Lewis, India: [ RE: vincent jacob, Saudi Arabia ] Mar 30, 2015.

MR. NELSON LEWIS MAKES VIRTUE OUT OF A SIN! HE SURPASSES EVERY LIMIT OF DECENCY IN PRAISING MODI.

See the proof and glaring example to confirm the above fact.

Nelson's comment, "If Mr. Modi wanted, he could have transformed their lives, including his wife's, who also works as teacher in a remote village in Gujarat and lives in a modest accommodation."

MR. NELSON LEWIS, YOU KNOW FROM THE NEWS BULLETINS PUBLISHED IN MANGALOREAN.COM, AND ALSO FROM THE COMMENTS MADE ON MODI BY MANY, THAT MODI HAS DESERTED HIS WIFE , JASHODABEN, AFTER TWO YEARS OF HIS MARRIAGE AND SINCE MORE THAN 40 YEARS. JASHODABEN HAD FILED RTI PETITIONS APPREHENDING DANGER TO HER LIFE FROM THE "SECURITY GUARDS" AND "BLACK CATS" POSTED BY THE GOVERNMENT HEADED BY HER ESTRANGED HUSBAND.

FURTHER, JASHODABEN HAS SPECIFICALLY AND PUBLICLY EXPRESSED THAT THE FATE OF MRS. INDIRA GANDHI OF BEING MURDERED BY THE SECURITY GUARDS IS LIKELY TO REPEAT IN HER CASE TOO.

YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ARE NONPARTISAN. YET, HAVING CLAIMED SO, SHOWERING PRAISE ON MODI AFTER SELECTIVELY HIDING HIS UNWANTED ASPECTS AND SELECTIVELY CONDEMNING PERSONS YOU HATE (TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST WITH MODI), AFTER HIDING THEIR GOOD ASPECTS, AMOUNTS TO A FRAUD PLAYED BY YOU ON THE PUBLIC. SIR, YOU ALWAYS DO IT.

YOU PRAISE MODI JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT AND MOST UNDESERVEDLY. THERE IS NO MERIT IN YOUR PRAISE OF MODI FOR NOT DOING ANY FAVOURITISM TO HIS ***DESERTED WIFE*** MISUSING THE POST THAT HE HOLDS!.

Original R.Pai, USA: [ RE: Ray, India ] Reply to Original R.Pai, USA Mar 30, 2015
Ray,

I am not surprised to see you backpedaling from the ugly part of scriptures that Christians believe in. As you should know, Christians regard both Old and New testaments as sacred scriptures. Well, no surprises from your latest post.

Also, surprisingly I haven't seen any responses from you to my earlier posts. smiles...Why are you shy to answer my question on evolution and age of this earth? Do you believe in evolution? Do you think that the earth is only 6000 years old ?
Original R.Pai, USA: [ RE: Praveen, India ] Reply to Original R.Pai, USA Mar 30, 2015
"why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims and joining mobs that have left dozens dead?" asks joker Praveena Pinto on Budhist monks in his desperate attempt to link Budhism to violence, meat consumption and animal abuse.

Dear friend,
It's amazing how slow and intellectually challenged you are when it comes understanding things!!! LOL I've already told you a few times on how the bad behavior from individuals can not be blamed on religions. We need to look for specific references in scriptures.

Let me explain this with an example that you can relate to!! I'm sure you know about the painful history of catholic church and child abuse by priests. As it turned out, it was widespread and went on for decades. However, it would be wrong to blame this on Christianity. It was purely bad behavior from priests. Same way, if there are Budhist monks misbehaving, it doesn't make it part of Budhist religious doctrine. Does this help?
Original R.Pai, USA: [ RE: Praveen, India ] Reply to Original R.Pai, USA Mar 30, 2015
Joker Praveena Pinto,
In your imaginary, twisted world, there is more animal abuse involved in vegetarian food than ordering meat!! LOL LOL This shows how disconnected, disturbed you guys are!! LOL LOL

Let me make it very simple - Non-vegetarian food involves killing an animal/bird and consuming its parts. On the other hand, vegetarian food involves no animal slaughter!!! Your argument of indirect animal abuse pales in comparison to non-vegetarian food!! The amount of resources and energy it takes to grow one pound of plant based food is a fraction of what it takes to grow one pound of meat!!!! Dude - grow up!!
Original R.Pai, USA: [ RE: Praveen, India ] Reply to Original R.Pai, USA Mar 30, 2015
"WHY is an atheist so concerned about religion stats?" - Joker praveena Pinto.

Simple. We equally oppose all religions. We don't like any special treatment to any religion either. As the data clearly indicates, one religion seems to be pushing all other religions out and growing much faster. This is not just in South Asia, this is true in Europe as well.
Original R.Pai, USA: [ RE: B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India ] Reply to Original R.Pai, USA Mar 30, 2015
"more than 90% of Indians eat meat every day" - revisionist historian Pincode Pai.

Dear BN Paimaam,
More than 90% Indians eat meat EVERYDAY ?? LOL Well, let's say, it is true. How does it matter to my argument to minimize the suffering of animals? Also, you didn't apologize for trying to confuse readers by bringing up Rig veda when I was talking about Budhism!! Or, is it too much to expect from an intellectually dishonest person?
vas, New Zealand: [ RE: Will try to bring nationwide ban on cow slaughter: Rajnath ] Reply to vas, New Zealand Mar 30, 2015
Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh
Are you mental?. Your ministry should be renamed as Non-union Home Minister. Do not compare terrorism with cow slaughter.

My advice: try to do some constructive work such as curbing corruption or stop rapes in India. Alternative is shut up.
A. S. Mathew, USA: [ RE: Will try to bring nationwide ban on cow slaughter: Rajnath ] Reply to A. S. Mathew, USA Mar 30, 2015
This BJP Government is leading into a direction to create massive poverty and unemployment. Already this "ghar vapsi" "forced conversion"
"re-conversion" news have reached around the world.

Now another issue is the "beef ban". That news is already in the New York Times, Christian Science Monitor etc. To certain percentage of the BJP electorate, this will be a soothing news, but the aftermath of this totally reckless and autocratic law in the nation, if passed will be too terrible to understand.

Is there another country in the world where the food is prohibited through the religious repression of the minorities? The percentage of the Indian citizens eating beef is far greater than our calculation.

Those people believing in Cow as a deity of blessings, let them worship. But, imposing that on the non-believers in the Cow deity is totally breaking the fundamental right of religious freedom in a democratic country.

I pity the near-sighted political leaders of India in their totally misguided political march. Also, waiting to see the blessings upon Maharastra and double blessings in Haryana since Haryana will be giving double punishment to those people who are serving and carrying beef, than in Maharastra.
Jay, USA: [ RE: Bhatkali boy wins National level visually impaired Quran recitation contest ] Reply to Jay, USA Mar 30, 2015
India is the ONLY country in that all sects of Islam can freely practice their faith, and I think SMR will agree with me?

The Saudi led Sunni coalition is attacking the Shia Houthi rebels, I hope once they are defeated they are going to challenge IS.
Nelson Lewis, India: [ RE: vincent jacob, Saudi Arabia ] Reply to Nelson Lewis, India Mar 30, 2015
"Mr. Nelson,
Your beloved Modi visited China and invited Chinese president to Ahmedabad and now again Modi is planning to visit China again, to do what? Not business? So Modi's prime consideration is money?," by Vincent Jacob.

Please note that I do not admire most Indian politicians, including Mr. Narendra Modi. Since you are iiving in Saudi Arabia, you have developed a regimented and one-track mind. Will any regular contributor say that I am an admirer of Mr. Modi. I have criticised and praised him depending on the situation. I do not treat him or anyone for that mastter as icons and heap lavish praise on them.

However, whether you like it or not, he is a non-corrupt man and his brother works as teacher and mother stays with him. If Mr. Modi wanted, he could have transformed their lives, including his wife's, who also works as teacher in a remote village in Gujarat and lives in a modest accommodation.

Since you have talked about Mr. Modi, I would like to know why are you in Saudi? Is it for livelihood or for fun and pleasure, i.e. if there is any there.

So what, if Mr. Modi is going to be China. He is a shrewd man, something must be in his mind and he must be having an agenda. He is not a melted ice-cream like Dr. Manmohan Singh? Dr. Singh was a "haan jee" of his Madam.

I would give you an interesting piece of information. Outside Kerala and India, the highest concetration of Keralites are in Saudi Arabia. I have high respect for Keralite Hindus and I have friends amongst the community. As regards Keralite Muslims, they are mostly involved in running cold stores and restaurants, but it is the Keralite Christians who are segregated in terms of Roman Cathoics, Marthoma, Pentecosts, etc. When it comes to helping, they will only think in terms of Namala Church, Namala Aal. Some of them are also involved in all sorts of irregularities and spend lots of money to buy awards in order to gain some veneer of respectability.

From what I observed, most Keralite Christian females in Gulf are nurses and they later get married or are married and get their spouses. Some of them are on free visas and not employed, but clean the house, cook, take care of the children and with the car purchased from wives' incomes drive them to and from the hospital. Others, besides doing the domestic chores also do private transport service. Some sell newspapers, others work in restaurants. In short, rarely you will find Keralite males doing better than spouses, who work as nurses.

All said and done, there are a few good Keralite Christians, who are God-fearing. However, they are few.

Rajesh, UAE: [ RE: Puttur: Mission Afghanistan - Man Arrested for Luring and Cheating Foreign Job Aspirants ] Reply to Rajesh, UAE Mar 30, 2015
what happend wether your money is reimburssed or what
STANY DSOUZA, USA: [ RE: Will try to bring nationwide ban on cow slaughter: Rajnath ] Reply to STANY DSOUZA, USA Mar 29, 2015
Here is Rajnath a senseless politician trying to rouse the sentiments of Hindus and please them for the purpose of vote bank and throwing the nation to stone age.
Ray, India: [ RE: Original R.Pai, USA ] Reply to Ray, India Mar 29, 2015
If I start writing about clear references to animal sacrifice from genesis, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, there isn't enough space here!! Are you saying that these things don't exist ? Are they not part of Christianity - Original.

Christianity came into existence about 2000 or so years ago, where as any noted historians and theologians will agree that Deuteronomy/Leviticus books were written at least(again I repeat at least) 1500 years before Christ. And you claim that they existed in Christianity when Christianity itself did not exist. Smart genius. There is nothing much to reason when you claim to know all about Christianity and do not even the basics about it as I pointed out here.

Good going keep it up..
B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India: [ RE: Will try to bring nationwide ban on cow slaughter: Rajnath ] Reply to B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India Mar 29, 2015
Will try to bring nationwide ban on cow slaughter: Rajnath.

On the occasion, Acharya Shivmuni wanted the Centre to bring in a legislation in the current Budget Session for banning slaughter of buffaloes besides cows.

To this, Singh said the government needs to have an absolute majority in both Houses of Parliament to enforce complete ban on slaughter of cows.

THIS MEANS AND INCLUDES THAT IF THE RSS POLITICAL FACADE, BJP, GETS ABSOLUTE MAJORITY IN BOTH HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT IT WOULD ENFORCE THE "HINDU RELIGIOUS TENETS" IN INDIA!IT NEED NOT AND WOULD NOT BE LIMITED AND CONFINED TO COW SLAUGHTER ALONE.ALL OTHER RELIGIONS SHOULD CONFIRM TO THE RULES OF HINDUISM AND ACCEPT THE HINDU FAITH AND BELIEF!

ORIGINAL RSS PAI, DON'T YOU HEAR THIS. WHY ARE YOU DUMB AND DEAF?

Praveen, India: [ RE: Original R.Pai, USA ] Reply to Praveen, India Mar 29, 2015
Declining Hindu population in Bangladesh region - Rampa showing his mile long chart of stats

The Q is - WHY is an atheist so concerned about religion stats?
Praveen, India: [ RE: Original R.Pai, USA ] Reply to Praveen, India Mar 29, 2015
It is based on modern sensibilities and a genuine concern over the suffering of those poor animals. Please stop embarrassing yourself!!! - Rampa

Rampa - some food for thought.

http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/ordering-vegetarian-meal-there-s-more-animal-blood-your-hands

Replacing red meat with grain products leads to many more sentient animal deaths, far greater animal suffering and significantly more environmental degradation. Protein obtained from grazing livestock costs far fewer lives per kilogram: it is a more humane, ethical and environmentally-friendly dietary option.

You might not think the billions of insects and spiders killed by grain production are sentient, though they perceive and respond to the world around them. You may dismiss snakes and lizards as cold-blooded creatures incapable of sentience, though they form pair bonds and care for their young. But what about mice?

Mice are far more sentient than we thought. They sing complex, personalised love songs to each other that get more complex over time. Singing of any kind is a rare behaviour among mammals, previously known only to occur in whales, bats and humans.

Girl mice, like swooning human teenagers, try to get close to a skilled crooner. Now researchers are trying to determine whether song innovations are genetically programmed or or whether mice learn to vary their songs as they mature.

So, what does a hungry human do? Our teeth and digestive system are adapted for omnivory. But we are now challenged to think about philosophical issues. We worry about the ethics involved in killing grazing animals and wonder if there are other more humane ways of obtaining adequate nutrients.

Relying on grains and pulses brings destruction of native ecosystems, significant threats to native species and at least 25 times more deaths of sentient animals per kilogram of food. Most of these animals sing love songs to each other, until we inhumanely mass-slaughter them.

We now know the mice have a voice, but we havenít been listening.

The challenge for the ethical eater is to choose the diet that causes the least deaths and environmental damage. There would appear to be far more ethical support for an omnivorous diet that includes rangeland-grown red meat and even more support for one that includes sustainably wild-harvested kangaroo.
Joe D'Souza, India: [ RE: Mangaluru: Placement Agent who Fleeced Aspirants with Promises of Foreign Jobs Arrested ] Reply to Joe D'Souza, India Mar 29, 2015
This incident is just a drop in bucket. There are thousands like Him around swindling money. Many take thousands from People promising getting Passport. When questioning why so much money for Passport,the answer is that Passport authority has to be bribed. So that means Govt. Employees are Corrupt.

Time is right for People who feel cheated should file case against these Cheaters with Police or DC itself. There is a agent took 15,000 to get duplicate Passport for a Lady who lost Her Passport. Agent is doing nothing but sitting with 15,000 while Lady does 90 percent of the work.
Praveen, India: [ RE: janet, UAE ] Reply to Praveen, India Mar 29, 2015
Traffic police should ban the trucks during peak hours 7am to 6pm. - Janet

What if a Concrete Mixer is needed, say at 10:00 AM on some construction site? Or should the pouring be set for, say 7 PM? (Which means some Concrete Ready Mix Co. needs it's workers to work beyond normal hours. Which means - OT)......
Joe D'Souza, India: [ RE: Mangaluru: Dayakar Bangera Needs a New Roof over His Walls - Your Help Wanted ] Reply to Joe D'Souza, India Mar 29, 2015
He is a Hindu brother and where are the members of Hindutva, Bajarang and so on. As Catholic if I go to His house and start helping Him, Moral Police goons may attack Me saying that I am planning this to convert Him.
Sad to see His face and fate but sorry as this happening in Mangalore and all over India too. Religion plays havoc among members of the community who lived in Peace.
Krishna Rao, India: [ RE: Mangaluru: Dayakar Bangera Needs a New Roof over His Walls - Your Help Wanted ] Reply to Krishna Rao, India Mar 29, 2015
Our government just announcing the schemes. This is the right time to the politicians to help Dayakar.
A. S. Mathew, USA: [ RE: Mangaluru: 'Jai Hind, Jai Hindi! Let's All Join to Promote and Popularize Hindi'- Governor Vajubhai R Vala ] Reply to A. S. Mathew, USA Mar 29, 2015
Next time, he will tell the students to practice yoga-eat only vegetables and fruits-wear only Indian fashion dress and no blue jeans, don't learn English which is a foreign language came from a country which enslaved us.
B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India: [ RE: Original R.Pai, USA ] Reply to B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India Mar 29, 2015
Original R.Pai, USA: [ RE: B. N. Pai, Advocate, Kumbla., India ] Mar 29, 2015.

Dear Original R.Paimaam of USA,

RE: "My opposition to meat consumption is not based on what a book says. It is based on modern sensibilities and a genuine concern over the suffering of those poor animals. Please stop embarrassing yourself!!!" - Original R.Pai, USA.

Well said Paimaam! more than 90% of Indians eat meat every day. They eat it from generations. Yet, you arbitrarily claim to oppose meat eating based on "modern sensibilities!"?

You have neither sensitivity nor sensibility. You find fault with 90% of the people based on imaginary and irrational sensibility and dogma. You do not accept facts and truth.

Paimaam, you always tell untruth and claim it as truth and thus prove that you are a "revisionist historian!!" Not me!
Vinayak, UAE: [ RE: Mangaluru: Jet Airways Launches Mangaluru - Abu Dhabi Direct flight ] Reply to Vinayak, UAE Mar 29, 2015
Need to revise the time at departure from Abu Dhabi is not very convenient. Suggest to have late evening timings, which shall actually save a day.
vincent jacob, Saudi Arabia: [ RE: Nelson Lewis, India ] Reply to vincent jacob, Saudi Arabia Mar 29, 2015
Nelson Lewis writes: In continuation of my earlier post, I would not trust the Chinese under any circumstances.

They are greatest threat to world peace. The country that greatly admires China is Pakistan, though Pakistanis complain that the products purchased from China, to mention a few, locomotives, engines, etc. are substandard and faulty. When it comes to Indians, only businessmen and corporate honchos will like dealing with China, because businessmen's prime consideration is money. Rest all issues take a back seat.

Mr. Nelson,
Your beloved Modi visited China and invited Chinese president to Ahmedabad and now again Modi is planning to visit China again, to do what? Not business? So Modi's prime consideration is money?
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