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| Austin Prabhu, USA: [ RE: Udupi: Bicycles, certificates distributed - Images ] |
 Jul 8, 2008 |
Dear Raj, Shenoymaam, D. P., isn't it dangerous to ride bikes on the streets in between all vehicles rat race? Just asking ashte.
One of my friends here bought a bike and started pedaling to work to save some petrol money. Last week one car hit him behind and now he is at home recovering. It was a hit and run incident and could not complaint to the police. |
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| Austin Prabhu, USA: [ RE: kumar, USA ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
“First, let’s keep in mind that politicians and bureaucrats in USA, Germany, France and Italy are not corrupt like Indian counterparts.” – Kumar, USA.
Dear Kumar, we too have a large number of corrupt politicians in the US. To name a few, our past Republican Governor from the State of Illinois, George Rayan is in jail for corruption. Current Democratic Governor Rod Blagojevich is charged for corruption by his own party members and they want to impeach him! Many of his friends, including few Indian businessmen were charged by the court for corruption, cheating and money laundering.
It is sad that India and Indians always look bad in our eyes; everybody else is OK! In India it is called under the table – bribery; and in the US the same methodology called lobbying!
In today’s news after 40 years of recognizing ‘low tar cigarettes’ now FDA is saying that it is a bogus test and cigarette companies should not print ‘low tar’ on the packets! Even though FDA came to know this bogus test seven years ago, they were quiet because of lobbyist gave them millions in cash? Federal government might sue these cigarette companies for lying to the public with the blessings from FDA?
Where are you Kumar? Are you still in the US? What happened to several financial/business institutions in the US? Why they went bankrupt? Come on, all this happened because of corruption by politicians and bureaucrats! I better shut-up! |
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| Shenoy, India: [ RE: 'People' launched under Saira's editorship ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| Interesting times ahead'People' ! |
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| Hameed, Kuwait: [ RE: Hussain, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Husain,
How is Ali Sana an American Agent simply because he denounced violence by some radicals? If so, most of the gulf countries, Pakistan and many others are also American agents, right? I don't support those crazy suicide bombings - Does it make me an American agent as well?
Sir, it's time for all of us to come together and denounce the blood thirsty radicals who kill the poor and innocent civilians. |
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| Shenoy, India: [ RE: S. D' Souza, Udyavar, Udupi, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
PS: There is no attempt to defame Islam. Reader discretion is advised.
Perfect ending to a perfect post. I don't think that we imply anti muslim/ Islam sentiments when discussing terrorism. It is just the concern against this social problem which needs to be corrected.
Mr Ibrahim Hussain has chosen to remain silent and I don't find any fault with him. He and I know that we can not control people who misinterpret religion and act in ignorance.
I tend to agree with Mr Hussain and close this futile topic right away. Let us talk about mundane things of life like price rise, inflation, BJP and its new manipulations, R.Bhat and his series of unfortunate events, left parties and their lack of reasoning power,Mulayam and his desperation to throw away Mayawati,G8/13 meeting with G string cut off for some etc. |
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| Shenoy, Indian Ocean: [ RE: Nelson Lewis, Bahrain ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Could the left parties win enough votes on their own to rule the centre?- Mr LEWIS has a question.
May I answer that Sir? The answer is a simple no for all practical purposes.
However, they can win enough seats to be a formidable no for any coalition. They will of course not be a part of any coalition which has BJP. From now on, they are unlikely to be a part of any coalition which will have Cong I. That will leave them as a major group of third front which is dicussed on and off.
Let me ask you a question for a change. Can BJP win on their own? Can Cong I win on their own? Then why blame the left parties? People have voted for them. You can certainly criticise the people who vote them again and again. That shows thier lack of thinking in a national perspective. They seem to be facinated by dead idealisms. Moribund fascinations shall we say?
Till our people accept and go for the two party system, we will end up having this type of situation.
PS: One more question. Suppose the left parties vote for the nuclear deal by any chance,are they good enough to be elected in future? Or do you think they still don't deserve to contest and win? My own view is that they need to move on with the times and modernise their views. There is not much difference between a religious neutral party with bad economic policies and 'religious' party with bad economic policies except that the latter provides some 'opium' to the masses. |
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| Shenoy, India: [ RE: Ibrahim Hussain, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
I am not with you for your anger on muslims- Mr Ibrahim Hussain.
Hussain saab, I must point out that I am dismayed at your interpretation of my post.
I am concerned that an attack on our embassy happened in Kabul killing 44 people including our diplomats. This you will agree is not a thing to be happy about or to be proud of.
This again is not a situation to show one's anger on any Indian regardless of their faith. Obviously India has not done any harm to Afghanistan. This attack was cruel and unjust. Are the terrorists sending any signal to our PM for signing the nuclear deal by any chance? What do you think about that point at least?
You agree that terrorists did the attack. Don't you? All I am asking is the possible solution for this problem.
Those who can think how the problem originated will be able to find a solution usually.
As I said earlier, I don't expect any one to take risk of their lives to try and fix the problems. But people can certainly avoid new members joining such outfits. These people come from families and not drop out from any tree. Families, priests have the responsibility to really educate the children positively and thus root out the rot. Those who are already rotten can not be fixed. They will fade away into the dust bin of history. But those innocent children of today who have the potential of becoming future terrorists can be prevented from becoming just that and the society can be saved.
I wish everyone could think in terms of a peaceful world and avoid hatred. |
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| Purushotham, India: [ RE: Left-UPA marriage finally ends, BJP wants trust vote ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
These Leftists are the most oppotunistic prople among all the politicians in India. They joined hands with UPA and Sonia when they wanted fame and money. They say price rise and other issuues are also there to make them withdraw support now. What have they done all these years when prices went higher and higher? Giving press statements is not enough. They must have protested and come out long ago. This 123 is a glorified matter for them so that they could raise more income from UPA. Manmohan Singh, don't care for such unholy allies. You have more sensible people like Mulayam Singh to support you. I am sure, you will win vote of confidence and your Government will stay for full 5 year term. BJP will gain on this divide and rule. Don't let them come to power.
All Indians must join together and oust these Left parties forever, who are agents of China. They have not protected any labour class people's interest, nor they have contributed for the progress of our Great Nation. All they taught people is to protest, strike making this country's economy weaker and weaker.
Jai Hind. |
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| Priya Das, India: [ RE: 'People' launched under Saira's editorship ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| Congratulations dear Saira Menezes; you are incredible and the best. Wish you all the best with great success. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain: [ RE: D.P.Kumar, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Mr. D.P. Kumar,
Can you please enlighten me how many countries embrace communism today?
I feel that communism only exists in Stalinist North Korea and Fidel Castro's (or today, shall we say, his brother's) Cuba and both these countries are very, very primitive. Well, Stalinist North Korea is a very closed country, other than their leader - a relusive character, who never flies by aircraft, but travels by train, even if he has to go to Moscow and is a despicable creature without going into too much details. His country is starving, but he enoys all luxuries of life.
You appear to always side the communists and, therefore, am I permitted to consider you as a communist sympathiser? Do these heroes of yours have any patriotism to their country of birth or are they on the payroll of Communist China and their heroes are Mao Tse Tung, Chou En Lai, Ilyich Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Nikita Krushchev, Leonid Breznev, et al. Could you please tell me how much money the Indian commies get?
Please tell me whether these Leftist Parties have criticised or condemned Communist China for trangressions like Chinese agression on India in 1962, supply of arms to Pakistan, Tibet uprising, etc., etc.
Leftist Parties are against the nuclear deal, because India has inked it with USA and I wonder if there is any rationale in their stand. Otherwise, they would have explained in threadbare to the nation why they are against the deal. If the deal was signed with China, they would have been jumping with glee and would not have been able to rope in their excitement.
I wonder what is the intellectual capacity of Prakash Karat, Sitaram Yechury, Brinda Karat, etc., etc. If they are so secular, why are the kissing the cheeks of BJP? Please explain.
Finally, could you please tell me whether the Indian Leftist Parties have the capacity to win enough votes to rule the country at the Centre of their own steam. Kindly enlighten me. |
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| kumar, USA: [ RE: Mangalore SEZ - No fears of attrition ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
First, lets keep in mind that politicians and bureaucrats in USA, Germany, France and Italy are not corrupt like Indian counterparts. In india, once the industries are set up, all rules are flouted, environment is polluted, slums are created and finally, a beautiful south canara is made uninhabitable.
The basic question here is that of human right. Why should farmers sacrifice their land to give jobs to others? Farmers are the most independent masses in a nation. They grow their food, manage their water, generate fuel and dont squeeze the govt. like ITs do for infrastructure. In the name of SEZs, governments and MNCs are creating a dependent population-dependent on everthing-water, food, power. At the same time, these companies dont want SEZs in barren lands in northern karnataka because, they want a place where they can spend least to develop infrastructure and also have big cities around where they can invest on supermarkets, cinemas etc and make people spend money. All D.K people should oppose SEZ and transfer of land that reverses the very spirit of land reform policies of erstwhile governments. All those who support SEZ should first study the reports of environment scientists who strongly oppose big industries in ecologically fragile D.K. |
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| Partha Sarathy, India: [ RE: IIT Delhi students, teachers march against faculty quota ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| Gurudev Rabindranath Tagore's Gitanjali where the mind is without fear poem ends as "Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever widening thought and action, Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake". But unfortunately, our country is still sleeping, still sleeping. In India yesterday and India today IITs,IIMs and BITS Pilani have been the top ranking Institutions in various best college surveys but in India tomorrow will the IITs and IIMs remain on top with reservation in admissions and reservation in faculty recruitment. Who knows there may be reservation in graduations also at IITs and IIMs. |
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| Francis -Mangalore, India: [ RE: Mangalore SEZ - No fears of attrition ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| These picture what is shown is just to divert the minds of people. The land of 4000 acres covering green field( paddy field )will bring food shortage in mangalore . The FARMERS who plough and do farming will have to beg for food in street. The Land should be not taken cheaply by state governemnet for peanut price . Instead it should be with the price what the land looser / seller rate fixes. Any way this MSEZ will benifit politicans and Bussiness houses. No poor people will be benifitted in this poject. The outsider will migrate and it will increase population, crimes and shortage of basic needs like water, electricity and further pollute the complete rural envoirnment. |
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| bharath shetty Kateel, USA: [ RE: Permude residents rue over MSEZ ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| Protest MSEZ till end. Dont give up. One day you will win if you are united. |
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| Ganesh, India: [ RE: Now, State Congress delegation in Delhi ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| Who paid for there air-tickets? Is it from the corrupt money they amassed during their rule? |
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| S. D' Souza, Udyavar, Udupi, India: [ RE: Shenoy, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
What have you all understood by the terrorist attacks in the world? What does it imply for our day to day life? What we the civilians can do? Does any one know and care to share their knowledge? - Shenoy
Let’s face it, considering the conflicts from all over the world today, Islam cannot be classified as one of the most content religion on the planet. Of course there are reasons for their discontentedness but unfortunately a lot of them have not come up with a civilised way to express it. A section of them are dedicated to destruction when their religious teachings profess otherwise. It’s unfortunate despite the world having inched towards democratic civilisation during the past few decades, where human rights laws rule and govern our everyday life, a minority section of Muslim community are hell bent on death and destruction under the ruse of defending religion. They have no respect for human lives and hence cannot be technically classified as true Muslims. They get brainwashed with unverifiable, unsubstantiated perks such as a truck load of virgins (a few seconds after the bomb has blown off), a permanent Rajya Sabha ticket in heaven etc. Why can’t they enjoy the same when they are alive? This world itself is heaven if you look at it from the right perspective. Life is too beautiful to die younger. As far as afterlife is concerned I have a few questions of my own, but let’s save it for some other time in the future.
Point to be noted, Indian Muslims have been a lot more understanding and tolerant on this issue than elsewhere in the whole Asia.
Interestingly enough, have you noticed that Jihadists and Hitler chose the wrong century to show their unwarranted aggression? From history we learn so many atrocious acts have gone without anybody paying due attention. Spanish inquisitions, Roman (papal) religious atrocities are to name a few. But we have learnt a lot from those not to repeat them again.
In retrospection, if we had belonged to any year previous to 1945 then possibly whatever atrocities jihadists committed would have probably made sense, given the whole world was fighting with each other but this type of behaviour is totally unacceptable today. There are many civilised ways to express concerns.
The people who carry out these attacks are clearly illiterate and ill informed about their religion & God etc. I am not talking about school education. Just consider the London bombers. Most of them were highly qualified. If British taught education cannot transform them to be civilised then nothing else in this world ever will. There is a need of the hour to target those who recruit and train them. These few bad apples are poisoning the whole community.
I have noticed one more thing, even though majority of Muslim brethren are against terrorism I haven’t seen a global, unified, unequivocal voice in condemning the same. I have seldom seen anyone actively doing anything to address the problem which of course is unfortunate.
Unless and until and we start thinking and reasoning independently (without religious prejudices) I don’t see any positive outcome in tackling this global problem. Even though religion plays an important role in our life we should be in a position to clearly draw a line as to decide between sensible acts and stupidity. Religion, along with its associated culture, brings discipline to life and that’s it. All the supernatural elements pertaining to it, even though being the core components of one’s faith, are unquantifiable so we cannot depend and act on them as to trouble others. You make your own destiny.
PS. There have been no conscious attempts to defame Islam in any shape or form in my post. So reader discretion is highly recommended. |
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| Hussain, India: [ RE: Rafique Ahmed, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
These people are not real muslims but followers of satan as Mr.Ali Sina says. Islam is a religion of peace (Rafique Ahmed)
Rafique what do you think of idiot Ali Sina. He is an apostate and anti muslim and agent of America, he is spreading lies in his website. Why he is not debating with Dr.Zakir Naik and geting answer from him. |
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| R.Pai, USA: [ RE: Ibrahim Hussain, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Dear Ibrahim,
What was so offensive to any religion in Satish's post? May be, I am missing your point. Yes, he did talk like a rightwing/hardliner with references to Israel and BJP. However, I didn't see any specific reference or insult to any religion! How does a tough stand on Pakistan make you an anti-some religion? As far as I know, we all agree that Pakistan is not our friend and it has been a trouble maker ever since 1947 in this region. We fought direct and proxy wars with Pakistan.
Can you please clarify your outrage? May be, I am missing something. |
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| Ganesh, India: [ RE: Mangalore SEZ - No fears of attrition ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| If Japan, USA, Germany, England, France, Italy, Canada had people with such mentality who oppose with so much vehemence then those countries would have been poor like Ethiopia. They sacrificed their happiness to become rich. Mangaloreans should know that. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India: [ RE: Alfred J. Rebello, UAE ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
"If LEFT still continue to oppose the deal, I am sure very soon they will be LEFT OUT." Alfred J Rebello on Nuclear deal.
Yes. They know it well that time is not ripe for elections. But the Left parties have stuck to their principles. Election and power are not the only criterion at long term deals of vital interest and deviation from the long cherished policies of Non Alignment.
You may just read in brief the points mentioned on the deal by Venky in
http://www.southasiatimes.com.au/news/?p=581 |
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| Ivo da C.Souza, India: [ RE: Employer kills 12 yr old maid ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| It is a pity that Goa is degenerating. There are such horrible crimes. To kill a girl. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India: [ RE: rajesh, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
rajesh,
Nuclear power cannot be generated in short term as you probably think. Even if we invest huge sum such as 4 lakh crores by 2020, the share of nuclear power goes up from present 3% to 7%.
Till probably, we have to extract hydro and thermal power which is inevitable. By 2020, India will be sure to produce cost effective nuclear power from our own abundant source of Thorium. The US does not want us to develop our own source to become self-sufficient.
India should not be made to dance to the tunes of US against our south asian neighbours is the wish of the Left. |
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| Ibrahim Hussain, India: [ RE: Nagendra Shenoy, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Too many cooks make a bad dish!
NS,
I appreciate your opinion and am with you. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India: [ RE: Nagendra Shenoy, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
"If they genuinely wanted to expose the failures of the government to curb Inflation, price hikes, market turn-arounds, inability to counter terrorism, why wasn't such an attempt made before?" Nagendra Shenoy enquires of Left stand.
The left parties have taken up these issues from time to time. They have been reminding about them quoting the CMP. They have also given suggestions on curbing price rise to contain inflation.
Probably, you have left reading these mentions by the Left in the news! |
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| Manoj Shetty, India: |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Dear Sir,
I want to express my feelings about Tulunadu, Mangalore land is so valuable because most of the people are depends on Agriculture, they are happy with what they do. So we can save natural Resources & we can control the water, air pollusion as well.
I would like to speak about my Kudla more, but now i will not speak. I am ready to join hands with you all to save the property. Kindly dont allow outside people to come to Mangalore for work, then definetly population will go up, dont let them spoil the soil. I LOVE KUDLA.
Thanks & Regards,
Manoj Shetty
Blue Star Ltd.,
Bangalore
Mobile No-9845764426
Email-manojs@bluestarindia.com
baba_shetty80@yahoo.co.in |
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| Ibrahim Hussain, India: [ RE: Shenoy, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Mr Hussain, I see that you are a bit upset by my post. Correct me if I am wrong. Please tell me
Shenoy,
I am not upset with your writings. You are at your liberty to use this forum for your views. I do not want comment on any one of your questions you put before me. I am not interested to talk about religion/terrorist/goondas/jungle chors. I am not with you for your anger on Islam and muslims. Best of luck to you for opening this subject and stay healthy. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India: [ RE: Left-UPA marriage finally ends, BJP wants trust vote ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Knowing well the consistent stand of the Left parties, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has hastened to announce going to IAEC,a step just to please Bush during the G8 summit resulting in withdrawal of support.
I seriously doubt, even Pranab Mukherjee was kept in dark and the Prime Minister announced it on board in the flight.
I seriously doubt whether Manmohan Singh has read the 123 draft agreement, Hyde Act with NPT, MTCR or several other conditionalities included therein like going to IAEC, NSG, Australian Group, Wassenar Arrangement guidelines, United Nations Security Council Resolution 1540, and participation in the Proliferation Security Initiative. The condition that India has to fully and actively participate in United States and international efforts to dissuade, isolate, and, if necessary, sanction and contain Iran. The Hyde Act binding India to The Nuclear Regulatory Commission of the US, requiring authorisation of their Secretary for Energy, various sections of Atomic Energy Act of 1954 and their Nuclear Nonproliferation Act of 1978, conditions pursuant to the export licensing authorities of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Department of Commerce and the authorizing authorities of the Department of Energy, as also under parts 110 and 810 of title 10, Code of Federal Regulations (or any successor regulations!)with condition that "Indian nuclear commerce has to remain in the national security interest of the United States" and monitoring progress by India in disclosing, securing, limiting, and reducing their fissile materials stockpiles, including stockpiles for military purposes and further conditions to furnish annually (i) the amount of uranium mined and milled in India during the previous year; (ii) the amount of such uranium that has likely been used or allocated for the production of nuclear explosive devices; and (iii) the rate of production in India of— (I) fissile materials for nuclear explosive devices; and (II) nuclear explosive devices.
Is this a deal for Nuclear supplies for civil purposes or India made to dance to the laws of US?
If we look now from a distance, let congress explain why for 4 decades they have not signed NPT? So far why they have not gone to IAEC?
Had they gone then or if they go now, is it necessary that we sign 123 agreement? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India: [ RE: Jathin, India ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Now the so called Communal party BJP is shining with all the big stars in its pocket - Jathin.
Jathin,
Too many stars and big names might actually end up placing BJP in soup in the longer run. Hence they need to be cautious with poaching/admitting the legislators/leaders from JD(S) and Congress.
Too many cooks make a bad dish! |
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| Siva, USA: [ RE: Mangalore: Pejawar Math to adopt Naxal infested villages ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
| What politics do you see in this constructive work Bhavana? |
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| Siva, USA: [ RE: Mangalore SEZ - No fears of attrition ] |
Jul 8, 2008 |
Well. Loss of fertile agricultural land is no loose talk! When the world is facing food shortage and India is loosing the edge it gained by green revolution, we don't need land grabbing SEZs. A 100 acre or even 500 acre SEZ would have been OK. 4000 Acres is just land grabbing!
Listen to (or read) what SEZ Impact Committee has to say - read the stats about the scarcity of potable water. SEZ is going to drain this region, injenct poisonous affluents in to the soil.
Moreover, for such huge investment of thousands of crores- only a few thousand thousand jobs will be created. If the same investment was out judiciously in to any other sector it would generate 100 times more employement.
Well - we can only write to forums like this, stage some token protsts, But land grabbers finally win hook or by crook unfortunately - that is the 'power' of money |
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