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Udupi: Don't be misled by foreign values- Muslim women assert
 
Published Date: 20 Jan, 2010 (8:56 PM)

By Team Mangalorean

MANGALORE, January 15, 2010: The western values life cannot be emulated especially those relating to the institution of marriage and family, the Western women have their own values and in the search of happiness they are squandering their emotions, we Indian women particularly the Muslim women cannot derive any ideals from such a society, said the women activists of Muslim community in a seminar held at Udupi under the aegis of the Girls Islamic Organisation of India Udupi district branch here on 14 January.  The theme of the seminar was role of women in social reforms.

Former general secretary of the Organisation of Karnataka and Goa region Ms. Khadija Huda said there was no religion in the world which can give a perfect marriage vow and there are some drawbacks in Muslim marriage vows also. We as progressive women of the Muslim community should try to bring reforms into the marriage vows before trying to reform others she said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of the speakers Basama Khatoon, said Allah the great had created man and woman with one soul, they are equal in every sense, why should women be subjected to discrimination she asked. In Islam both men and women were same; to build a strong Islamic society it was necessary that women should be given equal rights as men she added.  She said women should come out of the four walls of the home and mindless rituals and out of the kitchens and join men in societal building, the society should give women a chance to contribute to the development of the society she added.  She said Islam has been misinterpreted on many counts, but Islam was a complete religion and its teachings could give life more meaning if it is taught in the right spirit.

Another speaker Ms. Suhena Fathima said women can make or mar the society. She can be a light of the family or she can destroy a family. If  given the right education she can be a strong social force which can pave the way for a better life of the family she added.

Ms. Malika Ulfath said Marriage was an institution in itself that was a centre point of every society, marriages can mould the destinies of the society, but at some point the interpretation of Islamic rites of Marriage has not been interpreted in its true sense, some people have distorted it she added.  She said if a women is given education she will light up the entire family and if each family has an enlightened women she will create a society of enlightened families she added.

Ms. Afrin Banu Aadi Udupi recited the Holy Quran, Tasmila Tul Saliha gave introductory remarks, Assia Sherief of the Jamat e Islami Hind women’s wing activist and Samina Shakoor also spoke on the occasion . Ms. Sabiha Assadi compered the programme.

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Kiran, USA Mar 11, 2010
I guess every religion has to modernize in their own way, in their own time, and from within the religion.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/In-US-Muslim-women-challenge-mosque-gender-separation/articleshow/5657852.cms
basmah khatoon, India Mar 7, 2010
peace be with one and all.

i was one of the speakers of the program and i must say it was superb and very well organised. subanallah.i thank manglorean.com to have included a report of the program on their popular site. thank you.

sister khadija huda did not say anything about the flaws in the islamic institution of marriage. because THERE ARE NO FLAWS and so, NO NEED FOR A REFORM.
instead she emphasized on how a muslim woman's sincere practising of her faith can help in the construction of a truly-islamic and thereby, a progressive and a better society .

and she did not say anything about the muslim women being subjected to discrimination; simply because there IS NO discrimination!

the point i made was that if in islam, men were equal to women in all respect; then the responsibilty of constructing a better society should be shouldered by both men and women equally and THIS is an islamic obligation of a muslima(female muslim).

the "house with four walls, a base etc" description in my speech was actually an analogy to the society.:)

the analogy was to explain the importance of knowledge and faith (comparable to the base of a house) , doing righteous deeds (as the walls)and love-unity-good character (as cementing and plastering) in building a strong society.

and with the light of islam shining from within this "house", the society radiating with its goodness, would not remain a strong society but also become a beautiful one.

-Basmah K
Wafa sultana , India Feb 18, 2010
assalamaulikum warahmatullahi wabarakaathuuhu
i had been to the programme by girls islamic organisation ...
it was mashaAllah a very beautiful progamme and the speeches by these girls were not only in english but in urdu and kannada also .... Khadija Huda had given her speech in urdu and it was clear and beautiful ... the speech was once again beautifully translated into English.

BUT KHADIJA HUDA'S SPEECH WAS EDITTED. KHADIJA HUDA ALSO ASKED INDIAN MUSLIMS NOT TO MIX UP THE MARRIAGE CUSTOMS AND TRENDS OF OTHER RELIGIONS AND COMMUNITIES INTO THE ISLAMIC WAY OF MAARIAGE BECAUSE ISLAMIC WAY OF MAARIAGE WAS AN IDEAL WAY AND THE BEST.....
thowseef ahammad, India Jan 20, 2010
dear sisters you have organised very good programme for muslim women. now a days muslim womens are out of track of islam mazhab..they are follwing thier own systems...as u said muslim women should come out from four walls, but their also they should follw the islamic rules, they shoul not fly like birds...now a days muslim women(includig girls) are not follwing islamic rules..for example you can see they are miss using burkha system.. they need not cover thier face ..ok if thye would like to cover their face let them cover full face..but they are covering mouth and nose why not eyes also..and again we can see tight fit burka fashion...why in islam burka mentioned..because to cover her body..this is shamefull to islam religion to wear this kind of fashionable burka...and this is my humble request that your organization has to conduct more and more progarmmes to muslim womens..peticularly religious education and social education programmes also..muslim womens are back in all type of education..let us pray with god to save islam religion...
Nisar, UAE Jan 18, 2010
My Dear Shyam,

Firstly, kindly note that all books including one that you may have contains various etiquettes which form our way of life.

You may call them theories in your inference as you might view your book (Provided you follow one).

The question here is the way people enjoy bashing any matter with regard to Islam without really understanding Islam.

Islam has strict principles for Males as there exists principles for females. Sadly theses principles are twisted or wrongly inferred by the males (As is done in any releigion).

Pardha does not mean just wearing a dress, it also applies to the way you look at the opposite sex. Just by Wearing Abaya/Burqa (Commonly worn black dress), it does not provide a free hand for muslim ladies to look freely at Men.

Pardha has a much larger meaning. It does not mean wearing the Abaya/Burqa. One of the aspect of pardha for females is wearing a loose garment over her dress to cover her figure & thus avoid undue attention. Men have to dress modestely (Any loose garment) covering their full body except their ankle.

Another important aspects of purdha for both males & females is avoid eye to eye contact with opposite sex & avoid looking at opposite sex with untoward intention.

If Muslim ladies like Fathima, India has a bad opinion about Muslim men, then I suggest she work on educating her partner & other males of her family as per Islam principles & taking examples from the various ladies from Islamic history, rather than vent her anger / energies unnecessarily.
shyam,india, India Jan 18, 2010
Azhar, UAE..y u scrating ur head unnecessrily searching word from rugveda, qaran etc..dear friend to be a nice human being just basic school education is enough..no need to look every page of relegius book and follwo it without realising its effect on 1010.eg : if messenger maries more tahn 3 wife with age difference of 40 to 50 in the name of woman protection..then if u practice such relegius activity in modern era its called as sin in modern world...of couse u shold respect him...not to impliment his life style in modern life....again dnt cme with arguement ..its applies to our relegiun god also (srikrishna)
Nisar, UAE Jan 18, 2010
My Dear Shyam,

Firstly, kindly note that all books including one that you may have contains various etiquettes which form our way of life.

You may call them theories in your inference as you might view your book (Provided you follow one).

The question here is the way people enjoy bashing any matter with regard to Islam without really understanding Islam.

Islam has strict principles for Males as there exists principles for females. Sadly these principles are twisted or wrongly inferred by the males (As is done in any religion).

Pardha does not mean just wearing a dress, it also applies to the way you look at the opposite sex. Just by Wearing Abaya/Burqa (Commonly worn black dress), it does not provide a free hand for muslim ladies to look freely at Men.

Pardha has a much larger meaning. It is much more than just physically wearing the Abaya/Burqa. One of the aspect of pardha for females is wearing a loose garment over her dress to cover her figure & thus avoid undue attention. Men too, have to dress modestly (Any loose garment) covering their full body except their ankle.

Another important aspect of purdha for both males & females is to avoid eye to eye contact with opposite sex & avoid looking at opposite sex with untoward intention.

If Muslim ladies like Fathima, India has a bad opinion about Muslim men, then I suggest she work on educating her partner & other males of her family as per Islamic principles & taking examples from the various ladies in Islamic history, rather than venting her anger / energies unnecessarily.
Azhar, UAE Jan 18, 2010
Dear Shyam
I am not seen any hindu women wearing the veil...........! but it's mention in your Rigveda book no 10 Hymm no.85 v.no.10 and its further mention in book no 8 Hymm no.33 v.no.19.
Why do you Muslims degrade women by keeping them behind the veil? Isn't a Hindu woman modest in her Salwar-Kameez? Rama tells his wife Sita to put on the veil and to lower her gaze. If you read historical books, the books talking about the Coin Age, the Age of the Gupta and the post Gupta age, there are coins, on which there are pictures of the Indain woman wearing the veils and the veil are going upto their shoulders, some go upto the arms.

who is following.........?
santohsh lobo, India Jan 18, 2010
shaikh Mohd Rizwan, Turkey..one agnle ur asking for reservatin on basis of relegiun..in another angle ur asking for equal right..with reservaton how equality will come?
in ayshas case..if she really want to show her relegiun fantasy in educatoin she should not study n public school..as told by you equaltiy..then y ayesha shold ged specail prevelage?
and petriotic spirit..we all know afzal guru ,mohd azaruddin,abdul naser madani ..list goes on..no need more example.
shyam, India Jan 17, 2010
Nisar, UAE..i have not seen any muslim man wearing pardha? be practical. dnt show some theory from any holy book.
Nisar, UAE Jan 17, 2010
Everybody enjoy bashing muslims women on Burkha issue. TIme & again everthing muslim does is an issue. What others including christians do are accepted norms.

Can you explain why nums have to wear those dresses. Arent they human beings? Now isn'nt this subjugation in the name of religion?

Hindu widows do not enjoy any rights. Why in some Hindu communities Menstrating women are seperated from other family members.

Male chauvinism is not relevant to any sect or religion its a malice of our soiciety.

THese ladies on the dias are there due to the backing of thier husbands or fathers. Let us appreciate their efforts to bring about an awarness in muslim women to greater roles in Society as our Prophet\'s (PHUB) wife Bibi Khadija (WHo was a successful business womn in those times). If muslim women are backward its not due to religion, Islam has equal status for women, & purdha is not only for muslim but it also applies for muslim men.
Original R.Pai, USA Jan 17, 2010
"Richard Dawkins and Pope Benedict both represent western values" - Mike, USA

What's wrong with Richrd Dawkins? I hope you are not referring to 'atheists' as one of the 'destructive powers'!!
(Dinesh D'Souza is more like Ann Coulter/Michelle Malkin-type conservative who can't be taken seriously in any mature debates.)

There are both good and bad in western culture (In fact, this is true with any culture). We should try to learn good values from everywhere while rejecting the bad ones.
Mike, USA Jan 16, 2010
The term western values is vague. Richard Dawkins and Pope Benedict both represent western values. A culture war is occurring in the west between Christians and athiests, materialists and darwinists. Christians oppose many destructive aspects of western culture. Dinesh D'Souza has covered the arguments between the two groups in his book "What's so great about Christianity?"
abdul salam MH DUBAI GANGOLLI, UAE Jan 16, 2010
Its nice to see even muslims women are doing such functions. But one question for Ms. Khadija Huda here its mentioned that "even in muslim marriages there are certain drawbacks" What do you mean by that, If you know such drawbacks pls let us know. Thanks, May Allah bless us all.
shaikh Mohd Rizwan, Turkey Jan 16, 2010
Dear Brothers & Sisters,
Islam is not a religion of subjugation. It gives equal rights to men a women of the believers. Since the script of our holy book 'Quran' is in Arabic language, most of us including Muslims does not understand the meanings of the quotes as compare to the language of the people. When Muslims of India does not understand very well how come non Muslims can understand this religion better than what media project it?

Muslims of India with 15% of population has merely very poor participation due to sidelining by the subsequent govt post Independent and subjected to just vote bank. When the govt. wants to consider giving reservations organisation such has VHP want to go on all out war against minorities as if we are not the citizens of India. When lady like Ayesha wants to pursue her studies in "Burkha" organisation like Ram Sena tried to hamper her studies and people sided and the poor lady forced to gave up the present college. None of the women organisations supported her.
When the govt of India set up commission to study the status of Muslims the report was objected by the opposition BJP in particular.
If the Individuals are not allowed to study, the commission reports are not implemented, the reservation of Muslims are objected how could we Muslims of democratic India give more to this country? Is Muslims of India be remembered only with two distinguish personality like Moulana Abdul Kalam and rocket scientist Abdul Kalam?

If two can contribute to this country, all of us given equal opportunity with broad spectrum and real patriotic spirit without any bias we Muslims will prove that our country not less than any other developed country.
Jai Hind.
Bonnie, USA Jan 16, 2010
Insanity - Eeinstein defined as repeating the same thing and expecting different results. By that definition, stupidity may be said as saying the same thing and expecting people to hear. I am surprised that such nonsensical parroting talk is even newsworthy. It can not escape the attention of any person as all that these so called experts have to offer is one line solution to all the ills plaging their own society and that is - WESTERN VALUES. So much for the expertise of experts.

How about removing the blinders as a first step towards to moving to some honest self introspection. My be this will continue so long as there are buyers for this kind of balderdash.
Khursheed, Abu Dhabi, UAE Jan 16, 2010
Well organized seminar. Congrats... Girls Islamic Organisation.

In Islam 'purdah" (Hijab) is one of the commandments of Allah. One can notice a verse behind the stage " Whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger shall win a great victory" Our muslim sisters are well aware of their duties and dress code. Burkha also gives an identity of a Muslim woman.
Nagendra Shenoy, India Jan 16, 2010
Another speaker Ms. Suhena Fathima said women can make or mar the society - News

Olidare naari, munidare maari. Once a man visited his daughter and son-in-law's house sometime after their marriage. Not finding his daughter, he asked the SIL as to where his daughter was. SIL replied "Neeve heLidralla maava, 'Munidare Maari' anta. MuniskonDLu. Maari biTTe"

But I am sure most middle class people of India agree with the very first sentence of this news. It is a 'Sarvakaalika Satya' and will also remain so.
Raj, Kuwait Jan 16, 2010
Educate a man, and you have a successful person. Educate a woman and you have a successful family. Equal opportunity in education should be given to the girl child in all communities. This will improve society in the long term.
fathima-mangalore, India Jan 16, 2010
Atleast some good thoughts from some muslim women. It is not clear from the photos how many audience present during the event. Also women discussing with women about anomalies of their social status yields no results unless it is put forth on the face of religious leaders and politicians in their forum. It appears (as usual) no men around to listen their appeal.
Anyway, there is no need to criticize western values and nobody forcing to follow western values. We have to adapt to main stream culture around us. Going around in Hijab with false pride of modesty neither gets respect nor gets priority. With such attitude all we earn nothing but mistrust.
Ashok S, UAE Jan 16, 2010
The title shows that "foreign values" are no good. The banner behind the penguins shows the "foreign languages" are a must!

As a couple of writers have already indicated, changes in the society (regardless of religion) JUST HAPPEN shortly after the members of the society receive general education.

It is perhaps not sufficient to praise the women alone in this regard. It is the educated MALE parents who contribute a lot to their daughters' education.

Basama said "women should come out of the four walls of the home and mindless rituals". Agree. Men, time is ripe to occasionally help out in the kitchen.
Dr.Sabir, UAE Jan 16, 2010
Dear Raksha. I Want to criticize your comments on Come out from Pardha. Wath do you think pardha is only for Muslims? NO dear Its for All the women. First you have to learn Why pardha is wearing?I agreed with you about education, even i appeal to all those womens Give the good education for your childrens. But You absolutely wrong about pardha. Mordenisation mean we cannot show everthng.
god bless u
Karuna, UAE Jan 16, 2010
Welcome to the new generation of Muslims women, who are realising that though religion is a part of evryday life, it should not tie them up with some beliefs which are not from Holy Koran. Let them analysis themselves why they are bound by so many restriction most of them forced upon them by some illiterate imams by wasy Fatwas for their own security and selfishness. To name a few I dont think any way the holy scriptures stipulates wearing black hizabs as a must, these might have been adopted in Gulf countries due to some social or weather reason, for that matter it need not be followed in India, simmilarly there are so many others . I think Indian Muslim women should by themselves decide which is good for them and than decide by themselves instead of following others.
Raksha , UAE Jan 16, 2010
my dear sisters the reason for your problems is not from the west. it is within your own society the indian society where women are considered the lowest of the low. educate yourselves and come out of the purdah, dont allow men to treat you worst than animals. so that your daughters will have better life than you had.
alison dubau, UAE Jan 16, 2010
dear alfred, first of all the good job from the muslims sisters, secondly the muslim men do not force the muslim women to wear burqa's its mentioned in the holy quran as well as in holy bible also, you people are following filtered quran.
thanks
god bless you
fathima, India Jan 16, 2010
Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE..ur 100% right..tehy want to enjoy their life maximum..but not allowing same to their partners.....they can mingle in any public function wer otehr relegius woman are participating..but they'll never allow us to enter any function where other man are present..
Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE Jan 16, 2010
Is this the reason muslim men do not want their women to educate, that they will take over them one day?

Is this the reason muslim men forces their women to wear Burka against their will (On case to case basis), so they remain hiding?

If this is the case, then Mullas will have to count their days perhaps, I mean in their approach. Nobody knows women power.
SHENOY R, India Jan 15, 2010
Good thoughts from modern women. I hope others will emulate them and come forward in the society. We need to have women MLA/MP/Ministers. Ulfath ke zamaane ki har rasm ko thukrao.
kulsoom , India Jan 15, 2010
very good program congratulation to girls islamic organization udupi dist
also speaker Basama Khatoon, Suhena Fathima, Malika Ulfath also presidential speaker Former general secretary of the Organisation of Karnataka and Goa region Ms. Khadija Huda

 
 
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